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Jewish woman didn’t know she was half black

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lacyOn Sunday, Lacey Schwartz’ “Little White Lie,” a documentary about her growing up without acknowledging she was part black, will premier at the San Francisco Jewish Film Festival.

Schwartz, a 37-year-old filmmaker, went through childhood with a Jewish mother and father in the majority-white town of Woodstock, New York. Schwartz, who had brown-toned skin and dark, curly locks, was told that her appearance came from taking after her Sicilian grandfather. But people around her noticed there was something different about her.

She recalled when she was a child and a white boy in her nursery school became “fascinated” with her features. “One day he came to school…and then he said to me, “Show me your gums, because if your gums are white then you’re white, and if your gums are black then you’re black,” Schwartz said in a Truth Aid video. She also remembered when a synagogue member at her bat mitzvah mistook her for an Ethiopian Jew.

“I was already questioning my whiteness because of what other people said and because I was aware that I looked different from my family,” the New York Times quoted Schwartz as saying in a recent interview. But after sending Georgetown University a photo of her along with her application to the school, Schwartz was finally forced to uncover the mystery of her ancestry.

The school forwarded her information to its black student association, and they contacted her. Schwartz said that her experience with Georgetown gave her “permission” to explore a black identity. She said the black students at the University embraced her.

After her freshman year, she decided to confront her mother about her true ethnicity. She said it was then that her mother, Peggy, revealed that her biological father, an African American, was a family friend with whom she had an extramarital affair. He passed away when Schwartz was 29.

Lacey and others in the ethnic-Jewish community hope that through sharing her racial obliviousness in “Little White Lie,” other Jews of color will be able to embrace their identity. “Lacey’s story is more complex than many, but it’s a way for people to talk about their history,” said Diane Tobin, founder and chief executive of Be’chol Lashon, a national advocacy group for Jews of color. “All identities are more permeable now, and we see young Jews who want to develop a more diverse community.”

Schwartz said that learning about her identity has liberated her, but it has also changed the way she views the world. “It’s how you’re seeing interactions, how comments come across to you,” the filmmaker said. “When you’re in a town, are you aware of how many people of color are there? Are you aware when you’re in a work environment?”

“There are benefits to being white— for me, it’s walking into a space with a potential sense of entitlement,” she added.

Although Schwartz missed out on embracing her black heritage for several years of her life, she said that because of her unique experience, she was allowed the privilege of viewing the world through two very different lenses. “I genuinely experienced what it is to be black and what it is to be white,” Schwartz said.

“Little White Lie” will air on PBS next year.

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173 Comments

  1. J5

    August 4, 2014 at 3:23 am

    She can’t be that stupid. Jewish people are black. She is not half and half. This is why people really need to learn their culture and heritage. I hope she studies more about history instead of what you learn in the classroom.

    • JembeQueen

      August 4, 2014 at 5:10 am

      Jewish people are black????? What? Those people bombing the hell out of the Palestinians are black?

      That’s news to me.

      Their mentality (Zionist Jews) is the antithesis of the mentality of any black people walking the face of the earth in the recorded history of mankind. Yes, that far back.

      The Falasha’s of course, being excluded from this group because they are indeed African and she does look like them.

      • Perez

        August 4, 2014 at 7:46 am

        They really are Black…but don’t confuse the white fakes,who said that are Jews, but are not!

      • Tariq williams

        August 4, 2014 at 2:06 pm

        That would be news to everyone if anyone were suggesting that however the fact of the matter is that no one is suggesting that the people who presently reside in Israel who are subjugating the Palestinian people are so called “Black” people. What is being suggested is that the original Jews are so called “Black” people.

    • Ojo Arewa Jr.

      August 4, 2014 at 7:00 am

      You surely need to learn your history in a non biblical context!

  2. cmoore

    August 4, 2014 at 4:15 am

    She chose to turn a blind eye to her African heritage.

    I’m quite sure the rest of the kids told her on more than one occasion she didn’t look like them.

    And shame on moms for putting her through that.

  3. amy

    August 4, 2014 at 5:24 am

    If you read up on black history you knew Jewish and black people do share a lot of DNA as the Jewish race stems from the black race. There are a lot of books about this. This is why so many Jews still share black traits: darker skin, Afro kind of hair, fuller lips etc. They are often mistaken for being mixed raced.

    • The Who Whos

      August 4, 2014 at 12:47 pm

      pluys the REAL jews of today will tell you the truth about their DNA..if they’re educated..and not ashamed..jews have kinky hair a lot of them do ..but they straighten the hair just like those of African descent..

    • The Who Whos

      August 4, 2014 at 12:48 pm

      …the REAL jews of today will tell you the truth about their DNA..if they’re educated..and not ashamed..jews have kinky hair a lot of them do ..but they straighten the hair just like those of African descent..

    • Lynn Magnuson

      August 4, 2014 at 5:03 pm

      Check out the Human Genonme Project sometime. It’s an attempt by scientists to trace the various groups of humanity to their origins. It’s VERY interesting. It has traced the human race to Africa as well.

  4. poet292

    August 4, 2014 at 5:32 am

    This is a story because……

  5. Toni

    August 4, 2014 at 5:43 am

    Okay, the comments that are made that “Jewish People are Black” you guys have to be kidding…It is a religion and not a race.

    I understand that when you usually see a person of the Jewish faith that their skin is usually lighter and they will have certain features, but that is because that they are from a certain part of the country.

    The young lady that you are featuring is very attractive and she is a human being…the most important part of this entire article…She is a human being.

    • The Who Whos

      August 4, 2014 at 12:54 pm

      Israeli Jews emigration ..basically are the same people as the Jewish faith.

  6. David Mayanja

    August 4, 2014 at 7:29 am

    Shame goes to mom the young lady she is blameless. But we are to embrace her fellow blacks.

  7. Freddie Hines

    August 4, 2014 at 7:31 am

    Jesus was a Black Jew What is the answer.

    • Bakkan

      August 7, 2014 at 7:51 am

      No he was not black. He was Sephardic Jew i.e. mid-Eastern compared to Ashkenaze Jews who are of European origin. What might be black is the sources of the religion considering the Israelites were in Kemet (ancient Egypt for 300 years). They most certainly imbibed religious principles, practices and beliefs from there and transferred them to their holy scripture. See ‘Christianity before Christ’ by John Jackson.

  8. Mike

    August 4, 2014 at 7:35 am

    Just goes to show you that there are 2 different worlds here in America,but we as a people of color always knew that
    The little boy that asked to see her gums reaffirms that racism is a taught and learned behavior

  9. Sisi

    August 4, 2014 at 8:09 am

    Thank you to those that said it for me. Black people ARE the Israelites, and the people who are SAYING they are Jews are of Turkish descent. Biblical history does prove this, and so does plain history.

  10. ronessia

    August 4, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Yes, she does look like a falasha hebrew.how she made it through her yrs without realizing she is a mulatto is beyond me.at this point why would she even bother to CLAIM the side she just found

    • The Who Whos

      August 4, 2014 at 12:45 pm

      ..becuz that’s WHO SHE IS.. that’s why she should CLAIM THE SIDE OF HER DNA she just found(smh)..PLUS she was lied too by her mother..about who her FATHER was..an African American.

  11. Zee

    August 4, 2014 at 8:55 am

    @Sisi: You are correct. The person here who said learn your history in a non-biblical context is only partly right. The Bible, correctly studied from Genesis, provides clear information on what people settled where and whom descended from whom. Then there are many non-biblical sources to corroborate the facts.

    Today, Jewish people that are identified predominantly as “Jews” with European features are a result of thousands of years of racial inter-mixing after Jews were dispersed everywhere.

    But, most people are too busy hating the Bible, and how it’s been misused, to be concerned with studying the truth that lies within.

    Truly, as the Bible states, “My people perish for a lack of knowledge.” Not, politics, government nor “religion”; we perish because we are deceived in rejecting true knowledge…

    • deotha woodburn

      August 4, 2014 at 2:36 pm

      jews are europeans, the Hebrews are African,( black) the language of European (Ashkenazi)jews, is Yiddish, not Hebrew, they learned, Hebrew, just like you would learn Spanish, or French. ( the letter J. did not exist, until 500 years ago), don’t take my word for it, check it out yourself. Sephardic jews, are Spanish, derived, from spain. there are an array of jews, the aforementioned, as well as, Palestinians, Italian, jews, Asian jews, etc. but there is only one people, that are Hebrews, African, ethopian. why do you think, they are treated so badly, in now, Israel. remember, what donald sterling said, and he would know. people can say what they will, about him, he told the truth, when he stated, how the ethopian Hebrews, were being treated over there. the truth will not be covered up forever, even if satan, has his minions, walking this earth. the righteous, power is still, the greatest, power. and don’t you forget it. the truth will be told.

  12. Herbal

    August 4, 2014 at 9:06 am

    real Jews are black.

  13. milwood

    August 4, 2014 at 9:31 am

    some people do things to look Black and then there are some who would do anything NOT to be Called Black..

    • The Who Whos

      August 4, 2014 at 1:00 pm

      THOSE NOT TO BE CALLED BLACK..they are taught to self hate and to feel they aren’t good enough.. and so they are constantly making an apology for being black to whites and ask massa how high do I have to jump to prove I’m good enough to be accepted by you who’s white? That’s it in a nut shell..

  14. zayan

    August 4, 2014 at 10:29 am

    GMS Israelites

  15. godfather05

    August 4, 2014 at 10:36 am

    She admitted that she had many benefits when she was passing as white only. I wonder if that will change now? She has proven that she has more than one drop of black blood so will the racists now see her as Black only? I see her as a human being.

  16. cj

    August 4, 2014 at 10:52 am

    Little White Lie is the perfect title because that is exactly what she is telling. Sorry, I do not believe it.

  17. cj

    August 4, 2014 at 10:57 am

    Omg! Wait she said that there are benefits to being white like walking into a room with a sense of entitlement. Omg…I mean we know they have a sense of entitlement…but she is even too dark to pass, so I do not get it.

    • Jennifer

      August 4, 2014 at 11:05 pm

      It is internalized racial superiority. She believed she was white and was generally accepted as such, and is stating that being white does bestow privilege in her experience.

  18. GCBoyd

    August 4, 2014 at 11:15 am

    What’s done in the dark, shall come to light.

  19. Ava

    August 4, 2014 at 11:44 am

    America has always turned a blind eye to the fact that we are all now mixed to some degree. I was told by a friend from Jamaica, I look like a white woman with very dark skin…go figure. My race is American, my species human, I don’t claim any of this nonsense. I refuse to categorized for any purpose. Jamaica has embraced it’s diversity well and the issues are based on socio-economic class, not color. I applaud them.

  20. Corbin

    August 4, 2014 at 11:59 am

    Her last name provided enough “whiteness” to satisfy her and her mother telling her that she was Italian was enough to turn her away from the thought of being black. Don’t be so hard on her. It is really hard on children when the mother won’t tell a child the truth or purposely omits a real important factor about the child. Now that I’ve got that out of the way, it is clear that she is going to contine to be a white Jew and embrace her “sense of entitlement”. I don’t blame her. This is all she knows. No one wants to go from champagne to flat beer.

    • The Who Whos

      August 4, 2014 at 1:08 pm

      @ Corbin..”champagne to flat beer”.. is a racist statement ..so as long as she THOUGHT she was of total italian jew she’s CHAMPAGNE but now that she’s found to be also half African American-she’s FLAT BEER?..you know you made a covert racist statement and all of those who can see thru you racist BS knows it as well..

  21. Ann G.

    August 4, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Toni, you are so right on, who cares if she is a Jew, African American, White, Blue or green the fact is, she is of the human race and that is all that counts! I wonder why all the different races were created, to see if we were intelligent enough to live together like decent human beings?? We have truly failed his test!

  22. The Who Whos

    August 4, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    Who can’t see that she’s half African American or of African descent? And for her mother to tell her that she got her brown complexion from her grandfather who was Sicilian? Truth be told the black Moors from Africa..controlled Sicily at one time in history.. you connect the dotz(I’ve always thought this is where the Italians got their darker complexion ANYWAY becuz of the MOORS sleeping with the white complexed Italian women.. it doesn’t matter as fact..9 why do you think the the European royals inter breeded? married their first cousin or sisters or brothers-THEY KNEW you can’t breed out the African bloodline.. you just can’t..the DNA will show one way or another no matter how white of a complexion one may have. ANYway one thing you can’t put passed African americans for certain, it doesn’t matter how pale white you look and how much of European features you might have, if there a taste of African descent blood in your DNA, African americans WILL KNOW and smell it, even if you act white or deny your African DNA or maybe don’t even know you have African DNA..its there and its shown one way or another.. its called kindred souls.

  23. Timeswimmers

    August 4, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Ugh…Isn’t “Jewish” a religion like “Christian” is a religion? And isn’t “European” a genetic reality like Black African is a genetic reality? Why are we confusing the two? A “Black Jew” is a person of color who decides to become a “Jew” or learn the Jewish religious traditions like Sammy Davis Jr. did. “Raised as a Jew” means raised in the Jewish religion. That doesn’t change your genetic makeup. “European Jew” means a person with predominate European or Caucasion genes or someone whose ancestry was from a country in Europe and “African Jew” means someone whose ancestries are from Africa (and if those ancestors were white they would be of European ancestry, and if those ancestors were from one of the indigenous tribes of one of the Countries in Africa, they would be Africanoid) not “Black”. There is no scientific classification “Black”. The classifications are Mongoloid, (the Yellow races like Chinese, Japanese etc.)Caucasoid,(We know who they are) Africanoid and Australoid (most of these classifications are based on the regions of the planet that people in these classification have traditionally lived in. The fifth classification, Polynoid Including all Indians), gives us the complete family of man, Yellow, White, Brown, & Red. The Blue race (The Dravidian race) makes five. Earlier classifications of mankind only included three groupings, Africanoid, from Africa, Caucasian, from Europe and the Mongolian, from China. What I want to know is how do you go through the Holocaust and come out doing the same to other people? African/Americans didn’t come out of slavery trying to enslave others so don’t tell me it is “Human Nature”. A lack of compassion for others is what it is about. I don’t know much at all about the Jewish religion but if the behavior of the Israelis toward the Palestinian people is an expression of its teachings then I’m suspect.

    • james

      August 5, 2014 at 3:08 pm

      How very interesting! One thing, in what can be called the constitution of the Palestinians states their goal is to eliminate all Jews? The resent fighting was started by rockets being fired from Gaza. Then didn’t the Jews in Israel find 40 secret tunnels into Is real from Gaza?

      I don’t understand the reason for all the hate amongst these and others towards Jews. Thanks for your insight.

  24. Read and think !

    August 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Great information . The letter j is 500 years old.

  25. Clarissa Bennet

    August 4, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    There is no way that woman could pass for white until she entered University. No way!! She had to have been challenged more than once in whatever white environment she lived.

    To Ava who wrote on August 4, 2014 – 11:44 am: “Jamaica has embraced it’s diversity well and the issues are based on socio-economic class, not color. I applaud them.” That is not true, African Jamaicans with dark skin try with everything they have to become as close to white as possible. There is an epidemic of skin bleaching in Jamaica right now with the infamous Vybz Kartel as the Jamaican poster boy for bleaching.

    http://gradworks.umi.com/33/96/3396469.html

  26. kimberly

    August 4, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    I am 3 shades lighter than this sister and anybody looking @ me can obvious tell I am black because of my features…sister you are in denial..you look black and I have no idea how in the world you thought you were not.

  27. Tracey

    August 4, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Did anyone read more than the title? She didn’t know AS A CHILD. She questioned, but her family lied. As a college freshman(adult) she confronted her mom, who then told her the truth. And for all those assuming she would choose to identify white, she is currently married to a black man with two beautiful brown sons.

  28. parrish

    August 4, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    The title of her film should be “A little white lie to myself”, She’s delusional! There’s no doubt she has a black parent. And her mother was fucking the family friend! Give me a break!

  29. shield

    August 4, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Incorrect the real jews are black period. Jeremiah 14:2. Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of jerusalem is gone up. Jeremiah 8:21. For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken over me. Revelation 1:14-15 his head and his hair were white like wool as white as snow and hia eyes as a flame of fire. And his feet onto fine brass as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Song of Solomon 1:5-6. Iam black, but comely, o ye daughters of jerusalem, as the tents of kedar as the curtains of solomon look not upon me because i am black, but because the sun hath looked upon me my mothers children were angry with me they made me the keeper of the vineyards but mine own vineyard have i not kept. Lamentations 4:8 their visage is blacker than a coal they are not known in the streets their skin cleaveth to their bones it is withered it is become like a stick. Lamentations 5_10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine. Numbers 12:4-15……. etc etc Acts 13:1 now there were in the church that was at antioch certain prophets and teachers as Barnabus, and Simeon that was called Niger, Lucious of Cyrene, Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. Now this is just a few scriptures that reflects the fact that the real jews are black. Please understand that when i say real jews i mean not religious jews i mean you have to have the lineage of the 12 tribes to be a jew. Not through convertion, not through your mother because the seed comes from the father. Not because israel was established as a state by the zionist in 1948 by the belfore and queen…… These europeans that are claiming to be jews are liars and are not of the lineage of the 12 tribes. As the scripture says Revelation 2:9 I know thy worjs and tribulation, and poverty, but thou art rich and i know the blasphemy kf them which say they are jews and are not but are the synagogue of SATAN. This is a powerful scripture because the european people are claiming to be jews and are not. They blaspheme against the most high and do not believe in Yashayah. They are not in poverty, they get billions in aid they own everything, they worship moloch in their synagogues. They are truly jew-Wish they wish as in wish js pertaining to. They do not fit the curses and prophecies that are on the real jews of the bible. They are not in poverty, they have no trials and tribulation. We the true jews are rich because we are the chosen people even though we are poor we are rich in spirit and Yashayah is coming for war and our deliverance from these biblical edomites as identified as the europeans. Edom a.k.a wasted away is he because the melanin has gone from his skin. Revelation 3:9 Behold i will make them of the synagogue of satan which say they are jews and are not but do lie behold i will make them to come and worship before thy feet and to know that i have loved thee.

  30. Omogun

    August 4, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    Some of you are very confused. Jewishness is a religion, not a race, not an ethnic group. The Askenazi Jew is a European convert from Eastern Europe, 4 of the 5 Semetic languages are native to Africa. Anyone can become a Jew. One can change their religion, one can not erase their DNA. Read Arthur Koetzler’s book “The Thirteenth Tribe” and learn some facts. I am even whiter looking than she and neither of my parents, grandparents, nor great grand parents (I knew 6 of them) were white.. Poor confused child. Race may. Or matter to you, but it does to those on power. Stop being politically naive please. Naivity is one of the reasons that Africans in America are still under the white mans thumb. The Jews of Harlem have much to repent for as do the Zionists in Palestine. I would. Not want to be that confused.

  31. Omogun

    August 4, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Most of the Jews today are Askenazi Jews, European CONVERTS. They are NOT THE DESCENDANTS of Ncient Semites. A true Semite is a mulatto. Read and become informed, READ and stop sounding ignorant. READ!

  32. Cornell Harris

    August 4, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    There’s no such thing as half black. There is half white. But black is black.

    • Jennifer

      August 4, 2014 at 11:27 pm

      I think “half Black” can refer to the parentage, for example President Obama’s famous self-description, “father from Kenya, mother from Kansas.” It is obvious though that he considers himself Black, being a man of color.

      White is not a race, it is a made-up legal designation to secure property rights for people NOT Black (and not any other race of color). It was made up by whites in power to manipulate the white poor to side with the white rich, and not to work together with poor people of color.

      As with the colors in light, white is the absence of all color. Pretty much any color counted as non-white and was denied privilege.

  33. Hiroader2

    August 4, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Yeah,.. If biracial people want to sugarcoat it.. go ahead… But as adults I see the choices they make…

  34. blacjk jones

    August 4, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    This is so sad…..We are all human being heading in the same direction….. anything else is just fluff in the middle…..”LIVE LOVE and BE FREE AS YOU CAN BE”. PEACE!!!!!

  35. J Zebulon

    August 4, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    I wonder when did her mom’s husband find out about who her real was. On another note Jew-Wish (Wish they were Jews) crack me up when they say “Jews are not a people but a religion” and yet they have no problem with the world accepting the lie that they are the descendants of the Israelites. We, the ones who came over to the Western Hemisphere in the bottom of the slave ships are the TRUE Israelite. http://www.thespiritofyah.com #thespiritofyah

  36. Carole

    August 4, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    I took a Jewish studies class when I was a university undergraduate. It was very enlightening and educational. I learned about Theodore Drieser who was a rabid anti-Jewish writer. His solution to the so-called “Jewish problem” was to have every Jewish woman marry a gentile man to accomplish the objective of “assimilation.” I also read Albert Memmi’s book, “The Hidden Jews.” I came away from this class with an increased knowledge and appreciation of “American” Jewish history. The fact is that we’re all genetically intertwined; yet, no one ever advocated for Blacks intermarrying and assimilating. It’s a fact that many Jews–“German Jews”–straightened their hair; passed as Anglo-Saxons; changed their names; and entered the world of whiteness with no questions asked.

  37. Donald Richardson

    August 4, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    I saw the movie,I passed for white. the girl’s mother knew and so did the girl. She had it better passing for white.But she was found out by her boyfriend.She didn’t care until her mother died. It’s really sad when kids are not told about their heritage.I hope and pray the young lady embrace both sides of her races and forgive her mother,who forgot she had to grow up one day….DRICHMAN1

  38. ericaf

    August 4, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    My question is: didn’t she own a mirror? When you look like nobody in the family it’s usually because you are adopted or you don’t share both parents. Granted her mother should have told her, but she should have been able to find out at around 16

  39. Wheniwassifited

    August 5, 2014 at 12:28 am

    She’s beautiful and her mom made a beautiful mistake that created a lovely daughter. In our family, we look like a real rainbow coalition, so glad she knows now and embrace all of you.

  40. godfather05

    August 5, 2014 at 2:29 am

    After reading some posts there is one thing that we must get right, there is a difference between black and white. If you don’t think so then you do not know your history. America should be color blind however that has not happened in over 400 years so stop fooling yourselves and be a proud black person. AND realize there is a difference between black and white.

  41. Floretta

    August 6, 2014 at 3:10 am

    I really people would read the whole story before posting.

  42. Sin conway

    August 6, 2014 at 10:30 am

    so her jewish mother had an affair with a black guy and hid it. this stuff happens every day.

  43. JustIsh

    August 6, 2014 at 11:49 am

    ‘Jew’ is not a religion, ‘Judaism’ is. it is practiced by Jews (descendants of Isreal) & JewISH people (those who are not of isreal but that have converted to the religion) which is why they are called jew-ish…like ‘ish’ on the back of a word when we’re describing something thats not quite 100%. The term Jew derives from the name Judah who is one of the of 12 sons of Jacob/Isreal which then became the name of a region in the land settled by Isreal that would house the holy city Jerusalem. Judah soon became the southern kingdom when the kingdom of isreal divided.
    So NO, jew is not a religion, it is either a people or of a kingdom and since that kingdom no longer exist, they are simply a people….and trust and believe, they ARE NOT the people you call Jew today! Those are JewISH people. Quite a few have pointed to the truth above. Someone said it plainly…. you all need to READ. Stop taking bits and pieces to support your ideology and for the love of G-d, stop believing eceryrhing the media tells you! read and learn truth.

    • Bert C

      August 9, 2014 at 4:39 pm

      Justish, well said. I am reminded of two quotes one by Malcolm X and the other by Paul in one of his letters to the Corinthians. Don’t believe what I say read and find out for yourself, and Don’t let men with fine sounding arguments beguile you respectively.

  44. Anthony allen

    August 6, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    You cant mix a dominant gene with a recessive one and come out with half and half. Im black and one drop makes you just that black . Ive got all kinds in my family but im black and proud of it.

  45. LLani

    August 12, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    She was smart enough to get into Georgetown, but not smart enough to know what she is. You can clearly look at her and tell she’s black. Any parent that lies to their child about something like this is obviously sick and need psychiatric help.

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