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Black People Are Not Ready: Empire’s Gay Kiss Sends Ratings Plummeting

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by Tiara KJ Williams

FOX’s hit series Empire proved that some things can take a little while to get used to, like the image of two gay lovers kissing on TV.  We’ve seen it before in other shows, but for some reason, Black people aren’t quite ready for it yet.

‘Empire’ creator Lee Daniels wasn’t too happy with the test audiences that disapproved of 2 men smooching onscreen.  After actor Jussie Smollett (Jamal) kissed his onscreen boyfriend Rafael de La Fuente (Michael) in an intimate scene, Washington Post entertainment reporter Cecilia Kang reported that the ratings “plummeted.”

“The test audiences they showed this to…the ratings plummeted,” Kang said. “They did not like that scene at all.”

Despite the negative reaction, Daniels, who is openly gay, decided to ignore it and press on with his gay agenda.  Daniels blames this plummet in ratings on what he’s calling the ongoing “homophobia” within the Black community.

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  2. Gene

    February 11, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    I don’t like cheese, but I’m not afraid of it! (Cheeseaphobia) Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean you’re afraid of it.

    • Janet

      February 11, 2015 at 3:18 pm

      Thank you !
      where do they come off with this phobia shyt all the time??
      I personally feel like GAY IS NOT OKAY!!!

      There is no fear its just my opinion on gay sex. I feel it’s perverted.
      And no one can stand up in their right mind and call gay sex normal.
      Itsnotnormalits abnormal and folks coming out the closet need to go back in and lock the freaking door!!
      Love who you love but thatpluking up the butt is not okay. A woman’s face does not belong in another’s special place!
      That’s just nasty!!

      • Regina

        February 11, 2015 at 6:03 pm

        Your statement about gays going back into the closet is one of the most asinine comments I have ever read.

        Just for argument sake, if all gays were to go back into the closet and not allowed to marry and you hook up with a fine brotha with 8 pack abs, nice car, high paying job with a six to seven figure bank account and you make the mistake of marrying him and eventually, he leaves you for another man.

        How would you feel? I’d rather have them out of the closet so I know what’s what.

        It will be a crap-shoot with a downloader, but still I know where to steer clear of.

        I am sick and tired of hearing about the lifestyle, but let’s keep it real and face reality, the LGBTQ are here to stay and they are not going away.

      • Peppa

        February 11, 2015 at 6:47 pm

        If you have sex and your girl gives you head ACCORDING TO THE CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, that is preverted. If you have sex anally with your girl, that is also perverted. So what are you going to do, choose which perversion you are against FOOH.

      • Julian Steptoe

        February 12, 2015 at 5:43 am

        Nutty Negatories,
        “Only love can conquer hate”. How might Mr. Daniels be “banished from the black community”?? Might bleach work, in his bath or food?? Oh, you tolerated the female on female kissing scene, as you did intended murders. The enslavement from which “Black America” springs was about NOT OWNING YOURSELF. What is a better statement of self ownership than the freedom to choose what to do with your own body? What you can’t seem to tolerate is the illustration of this freedom by black men. They must be captured, imprisoned, tortured, and put to servitude and death. Little in the way of “straight” romance is depicted, rather merely lusts and aversions, on the show, with many elegantly portrayed motives of desperation. The drama and talent evident has boosted the show to high ratings. The sexual preferences of the characters has been displayed from day one. We expect outcomes from all the important threads. Even if the gay characters are killed off, new ones would appear and others exposed, because the show is designed to artistically explore and display realities of the black and commercial experience, to illuminate our difficulty and solutions, to each his own. Be educated, be entertained, be critical, but being ridiculous and hateful, you are looking at the world, our people, yourself, through white colored glasses.

  3. tita

    February 11, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    They can try if they want but the majority of people do not want to see two men kissing on prime time tv. I was grossed out when I saw it but I like Cookie and Hakeem so I’m still watching because of them two. And Daniels need to stop with the homophobia in the black community BS, its not that, me personally just do not want to be around that mess or to see it. I would never try to intentionally hurt or go out my way to make a gay persons life worse but I WILL NOT condone it in my life or force others to accept that lifestyle. I am sorry I know some people will disagree but it is plain nasty and disgusting to see two men going at it. YUCK!!!!

    • CJ

      February 11, 2015 at 2:53 pm

      You just fully represented the definition of homophobic. What you said is no different than a person saying that they don’t want to see a black man and a white woman kissing. Would you then label them a racist, especially if the person assessing the situation was white? Another hypocritical stance.

      • joseph

        February 11, 2015 at 3:24 pm

        Well I don’t care to see what I still believe is a aberration of nature to take a role as some form of normalcy. So if you want to label me a homophobic fine. You have a right to your opinion as I do. I don’t advocate that what consenting adults do behind closes doors be regulated; but because Hollywood has such a overwhelming bunch of homosexuals, don’t mean every demographics is going to accept that perversion. I know that when I have analysis sex with a woman it is perverted, and I am a man; what on God’s green earth, would make anyone think that heterosexual people want to see gay lovers. I will tell you who. Mentally deviate gay people. A respectable homosexual would keep that insanity in the closet. I think they should be able to get married legally, but adoption is out of the question.

      • Super Syl

        February 11, 2015 at 3:33 pm

        It’s so unnatural for men to be with men & women with women that’s what’s revolting! No matter how you try to “shame” people that they are homophobic and shut them up there are still people that will say look at the early dictionaries that state that it’s a SICKNESS and the BIBLE that states it’s an abomination in the eyes of God ( which so many discount)! It is what it is, not what you try to make it (normal), it’s far from that!!!! It will never be “normal” no matter how hard you try to compare it to black & white dating, etc. They WERE NOT born that way although there might be tendencies no more than a thief or murderer was born that way! Decisions are what we all make, right or wrong!

        • Regina

          February 11, 2015 at 6:04 pm

          King James of the buybull was a homosexual.

      • tita

        February 12, 2015 at 8:40 pm

        You say what you want but I am not going to accept the gay lifestyle. I will respect all of God’s children but I refuse to accept the gay lifestyle, there is nothing homophobic about that. And also stop comparing being gay to someone’s skin color, they are two separate issues. You may let the people of this world force you to accept something God has already called an abomination, but I will not. There are some things you have to not let other people force you to believe in and gay people is one thing I will not be forced to believe in.

  4. LYRICAH SALAZAR

    February 11, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Love is love…. nothing’s wrong with that man kissing his man. Just because you dislike it doesn’t mean it isn’t and doesn’t happen. Like Me’Lissa would say – IF YOU CAN DO IT, I CAN DO IT TOO BABY!

  5. marcus davis

    February 11, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    Could’nt care less never watch the show ,besides if i ever see 2 men going at it on screen,i either flip the channel or turn it off.Makes me puke the amount of crap on tv nowadays.No way would i ever watch that shyte.

    • Steven Even

      February 11, 2015 at 3:28 pm

      I’ve got 250 channels on my TV system as do most of us. So we have a choice of what to watch. I hope the black people responding on this page is exactly the way white people feel about seeing blacks on TV. If you can understand that it might mitigate your intolerance somewhat.

  6. Shirley York

    February 11, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    That’s your opinion. Other people are more accepting. There are gay people all over the world. Some people will shut their eyes and shake their head at the “kiss”, others won’t. In the early part of our country’s history how did folks feel when interracial couples kissed or showed the slightest affection in public. Times have changed not because it was forced on people but by bravely showing that people in love, are just, people in love.

    • blkfootblaque

      February 11, 2015 at 8:17 pm

      There are men receiving more Booty in Jail, they call it being Gay, but that’s not Gay, that being ON THE DOWN LOW!!…..bringing hurt and disease to Woman, foddling your Son’s and Daughter’s trying to turn them, these little kids out. Their disquising it under Gay.
      You are born with different genitial to determine boy & girl. Snips snails puppy dog tails that’s what little boys are made of. [blue blanket] Sugar and spice everything nice, that’s what little girls are made of. [pink blanket] Not that you have to look between their legs but as a toddler you see how they behave while at play. Boys are ruff, Girls are more gentle. Society knows that Woman were created from a man’s rib. ANOTHER MAN IS NOT CREATED FROM ANOTHER MAN’S RIB!!! Therefore 2 men should not be on television kissing each other. Keep that part in the closet. Keep they Gay Sex in the closet. The world has enough pycho, perverts, child molesters in this world because the sicko’s feel they can do anything perversed because GAY tells them to try your Son or try your Daughter and if It’s okay they might film it hoping it gets on television. This how TV influence People to do anything, so they can have t
      he ratings. ALL about Dollar BILLS!!!……………@Shirley York, I love your post and I agree with your statement”” that that is that People who are in Love are in love.”” THat is the way it should be. I feel the same, but there are those that is faking it for sexual gratification, sexual lust on children and outright molesting ideals. Those are the ones who are pretending they need emphathy from you in order to flip your family into the world of Sin in a more graduating sense. We are born in a world of sin there is no doubt about that.

  7. william alexander

    February 11, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    IM NOT HOMOPHOBIC BECAUSE I DONT LIKE TWO MEN KISSING…I JUST DONT LIKE TWO MEN KISSING…I DONT LIKE PEOLPE KISSING DOGS THAT DOESNT MEAN I HATE DOGS!!!!

  8. Ray Watkins

    February 11, 2015 at 3:52 pm

    Everybody wants to get into the act…. It’s funny how through time some things transition from one thing to another… What we see on TV today, could only be seen in sleezy XXX rated movie houses… Then we relaxed things, and brought that porn into our homes via HBO, Showtime, and all of the other pay for view types of television… Countries in the Middle East although they have many faults of their own, consider this country a very immoral place, completely shameless in our life styles. I don’t condemn anyone for what they do in their personal lives, because it’s not for me to judge. There was a time in our own history,

  9. Kid

    February 11, 2015 at 3:54 pm

    then explain why when it’s done on “Scandal” or “How to get away with Murder” nothing happened. Maybe Lee Daniels script just isn’t that good. Also a lot of Black men are sensitive how we are shown. There is a history of whites portraying us as effeminate. There’s not a balance in roles for Black me on TV. Also homophobia exist all over America. My problem with Lee Daniels was when he showed a female Black Panther member in the Butler as rude, and ill-mannered. Lee has to remember that they showed Black men in Western Culture for 500 years as effeminate and weak. In Mario van Peebles TV movie “Sophaciated Gentlemen” the Black gay guy was shown as the toughest of the bunch. Or the Wire had a hardcore gay character.

  10. Ray Watkins

    February 11, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Everybody wants to get into the act…. It’s funny how through time some things transition from one thing to another… What we see on TV today, could only be seen in sleezy XXX rated movie houses years ago… Then we relaxed things, and brought that porn into our homes via HBO, Showtime, and all of the other pay for view types of television… Countries in the Middle East although they have many faults of their own, consider this country a very immoral place, completely shameless in our life styles. I don’t condemn anyone for what they do in their personal lives, because it’s not for me to judge. There was a time in our own history, when some folks got sick to their stomachs, when actors like Jim Brown, did the “wild thang” with Rachel Welch… White folks didn’t want to see that big buck, with Rachel, and a lot of black women got an attitude because Jim crossed the line, and accommodated the white women.. I don’t want to see anyone doing the wild thang or any other intimate stuff for that matter, so I don’t look at it,and don’t have an opinion about it.. If you don’t like what’s on the “Boob tube”, change the channel… Like you’re doing with Empire….

  11. Jeanne Mulholland

    February 11, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    Exactly what William Alexander said!

  12. Quincy Marcel

    February 11, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    Breaking news. Two men kiss on TV. It didn’t hurt the Wire. It didn’t hurt Spartacus, Six Feet Under, and Shameless. I am not sure it hasn’t hurt Empire. I guess the other shows are/were on cable so people are more liberal in that regards.

    Do I care. I don’t conflate finding something yucky with it being an immoral act. There is nothing wrong with consenting adults engaging in the sexual relationship of their choice.

    Yes, there is a gay agenda and that is to normalize homosexuality. That’s no big deal. I personally won’t get upset if a marginalized group tries to gain acceptance especially when these relationships are based on consent.

  13. Tom B

    February 11, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    I have to say that your responses were rather refreshing. Don’t hang around liberal sites, they will cut you off at the knees. If ya’ll haven’t noticed, States are falling in line with gay marriage. Ya can’t look cross eyed at a gay person without being called a homophobe.

    Personally, I don’t care to see two guys play tonsil hickey on TV either. considering gay/lesbian/transgender/bisexuals represent less the 3% of society, given the number of gays that are represented in the entertainment industry, you’d think it was more like 40%

    LGBT is pushing it’s agenda … get used to it

  14. Phoenixmarguerite turner

    February 11, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    Ray Watkins, I am totally in accord with your viewpoint. I grew up in San Francisco and am very tolerant of all lifestyles and views, but one problem with morality in the USA is the lack of common courtesy. Even something as natural as breastfeeding has been turned into a sordid topic by mothers who want to bare their breasts for some reason and then make the problem the act of nursing not the act of indecent exposure. Those same women would most likely be insulted if a man ogled their breasts or made a rude comment. It does appear the gay agenda is being rapidly inserted into the media even in shows geared to young people such as glee, which is introducing a transgendered character this last season. In a perfect world, sexuality would not need to be a topic of discussion so as you mentioned, change the channel if you don’t like the selection.

  15. dehope

    February 11, 2015 at 6:55 pm

    It’s not being afraid it’s like must we see it our parents and grandparents aren’t that ready and some of us aren’t either to see all blatantly put out there. I have wonderful gay friends so I am good, but I don’t like seeing all that sex on the tv from male female, male male, or female female!!!! Everybody just not ready for all that yet

  16. blkfootblaque

    February 11, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    There are men receiving more Booty in Jail, they call it being Gay, but that’s not Gay, that being ON THE DOWN LOW!!…..bringing hurt and disease to Woman, foddling your Son’s and Daughter’s trying to turn them, these little kids out. Their disquising it under Gay.
    You are born with different genitial to determine boy & girl. Snips snails puppy dog tails that’s what little boys are made of. [blue blanket] Sugar and spice everything nice, that’s what little girls are made of. [pink blanket] Not that you have to look between their legs but as a toddler you see how they behave while at play. Boys are ruff, Girls are more gentle. Society knows that Woman were created from a man’s rib. ANOTHER MAN IS NOT CREATED FROM ANOTHER MAN’S RIB!!! Therefore 2 men should not be on television kissing each other. Keep that part in the closet. Keep they Gay Sex in the closet. The world has enough pycho, perverts, child molesters in this world because the sicko’s feel they can do anything perversed because GAY tells them to try your Son or try your Daughter and if It’s okay they might film it hoping it gets on television. This how TV influence People to do anything, so they can have t
    he ratings. ALL about Dollar BILLS!!!

  17. Ronnie Brown

    February 11, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    you’re quite correct…in spite of the media peer pressure and homophobia as “scarlet lettering”, people will continue to exercise their right to not co-sign two dudes kissing each other!

  18. Kimberly

    February 12, 2015 at 2:13 am

    For the person who spoke about child molestation…what does that have to do with it?hum…most pedophile child molesters that I know or have read about ARE STRAIGHT!

  19. Corbin

    February 12, 2015 at 4:07 am

    Oh please. Everyone knows gay is WRONG!!! You do not see a man and a woman begging the Supreme Court to allow them to marry. Not since the Lovings (the interracial couple) A p enis is not meant to be inserted into an a/nus. A woman’s mouth does not belong on ANYONE’S nether region period. I don’t appreciate being bullied and/or forced to accept something so terrible and horrendous. I am still trying to explain to one of my children what Monica Lowenski did to Bill Clinton. People have taken something special and sacred between a man and a woman and twisted it into pure filth. Being gay is wrong, perverted, twisted and sick and those who practice these types of behaviors are mentally ill.

  20. The Black Man

    February 12, 2015 at 4:53 am

    The people have spoken. When any one tries to push a lifestyle on the Black nation, they need to be canceled.

  21. J

    February 12, 2015 at 11:58 am

    I hope they have more “gay” stuff next week. Next stop = Cancellation.

  22. J

    February 12, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    Just thought about this – How much money would it take for you to kiss another man/woman in a sexual nature on television? I have always wondered if those that do it already have the gay “gene” in their bodies. I think so. If all it takes is money – you can be made to do anything.

    #fortheloveofmoney

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