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Dr Boyce: When Chris Brown and BET say “These hoes ain’t loyal,” they’re talking about your daughter too

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by Dr. Boyce Watkins

This week, I was thinking about Chris Brown, BET and the performance of the song with the chorus “These hoes ain’t loyal.”  I’ll admit that I’m left confused by some of the feminist scholars who took issue with my article on black male sexual responsibility, yet had nothing to say when Brown, Lil Wayne and BET felt compelled to celebrate the disloyalty of “hoes” around the world.  I speculate that for some feminists, the rule is “I’m going to call out all disrespect for women….unless it sounds good and the singer is cute.”

There is also the case just a couple of weeks ago, where many people ignored a two hour sermon by Pastor Jamal Bryant, but focused on one sound bite during which he used the phrase “these hoes ain’t loyal” in order to explain why a man should focus on a “godly woman” and not one who is going to be available for a couple of nights.  Even though Pastor Bryant also took the time to ensure that he explained that he wasn’t talking about all women with his remarks, he was eaten alive by extreme feminists who are pretty much ordered by the liberal establishment to castrate every black man who speaks on behalfs of fathers, families and black children.

I didn’t agree with Pastor’s Bryant’s particular use of words, but I saw the remarks to be one unfortunate soundbite instead of a reason to destroy decades of work on behalf of black children and families.  As a father of daughters, I try to understand feminism as much as I can, while respecting the rights of men, Christians and everyone else.  But I can’t help but to be taken aback by some of the borderline terroristic bullying that occurs when someone has an opinion that doesn’t agree with a pre-defined set of ideas from which no one is allowed to deviate.  I would love to live in a world where we can empower black women and respect black men as well.

READ MORE via When Chris Brown sings “These hoes ain’t loyal” on BET: Should women be offended? | Your Black World.


  1. Lu

    July 5, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    I think it is poor that an article is written based in Chris Brown’s song. Give me us all a break and start writing credible articles instead of following celebrities around. Who cares! Shame!

  2. tara

    July 5, 2014 at 11:14 pm

    Dr. Boyce you should know better, because any man with any sense knows that the women that Mr. Brown is referring to are the ones who are riding these guys jock for status and all they can get out the deal. Anybody with any sense knows that Mr. Brown enojoys sex, he has sang about it in other songs. But for him and other men the difference between a woman who they enjoy that kind of companionship with and the ones who he is referring to as being hoes is the ones who are not looking to get theirs at these guys expense versus the ones who are, would be there for them if when the chips are down versus those who won’t, or would not drop them for a bigger fish if the opportunity presented itself versus the ones who do(and something I’m sure alot of decent women would not do). These are are the kind of women no one in their right mind would want to look upon as being. Now with that being said, I understand from a spiritual standpoint what God expects from us with most of us (singles) not being right as it relates to what goes on behind close doors. But I also know the diffence between those who are only looking out for themselves and those who are showing affections to those they are attracted to even when they shouldn’t be doing it in this way until they are married. With me wondering do you.

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    • Therapy4you

      July 7, 2014 at 10:17 am

      Yeah…that part

  3. Dr. Wilson

    July 6, 2014 at 12:03 am

    Well said Dr. Watkins

  4. Tawanza

    July 6, 2014 at 1:53 am

    Nah he only talking bout hoes whst the song says & if your daughter happen to fall in that category then it’s some major things she needs to be changing bout herself. If u know u not a hoe this song won’t bother u cause I love it it’s true hoes ain’t dam loyal that’s why they hoes

  5. rosemary davis

    July 6, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    I’m not one who listens to Rap or Hip Hop. I watch the BET awards and thought that Chris Brown word was these girls ain’t loyal or did he substitute Hoe with the word girl because he was on nation-wide T.V. but at either rate I have seen young black women booping their heads to this song so I guess they don’t mind being referred to as Hoes.I think most of them listen to the beat and don’t hear the words.

  6. Goddess

    July 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    to tawanza…huh??

  7. C.A.

    July 6, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    I’m not sure why we expect these thugs or kids to raise our kids… I mean we do know how much trouble he has been in lately correct? I guess instead of paying attention to Chris Brown, how about focusing on BET for letting him and these rappers you think are ignorant even perform at the awards show…. If you think there’s going to be a day and time where all we here is positive music then your in a fantasy world. Although I understand Pastor Bryant’s comments about hoes aint loyal, it was stupid and irresponsible. Poor judgment. But, it’s okay because he’s done a lot for the black community and families alike… Dr. Watkins has a double standard along with a lot of people. If we raise our kids right no matter what they listen to just as myself and millions of others a song or it’s lyrics will not make a boy or so called man disrespect a woman or a girl or so called woman put herself out in the streets in a non ladylike manner…

  8. Devon

    July 7, 2014 at 4:19 am

    Why ppl frontin like they dont know blk h@’s dont exist? What yall call chicks that go backstage and to after parties to screw and suck off rappers? What yall call blk chicks that go to after game parties scopin for nba and nfl players so they cn screw them and get pregnant and have a cash cow and get paid tens of thousands of dollars of child support money? And what yall call the chicks that fuck for a two piece and fries or free drinks and blunts? Yall dont mind calling out blkmn on their bullsheit when they doin dumb sheit and as a blkwm I call them out too but we cant call out blkwmn on their sheit thats some hypocritical bullsheit to me.

    • Unk

      July 7, 2014 at 4:19 pm


  9. MJ

    July 7, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    I agree with Devon….a h** will always be a h** of their lavishly lifestyle they live like Devon says about those h** screws celebrity for $$$/child support instead of focus on being independent woman

  10. Khen MoZhione

    July 9, 2014 at 5:31 am

    Only HOES got problems with this…………..’cause IF you a lady you WOULD know the SPECIFIC TRAMPS he’s talking to, ….BUT that’s just me! >_<

  11. cheche

    July 9, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    So what do you call a man who has sex with a ho??? A HO!!! You couldn’t have prostitution or Ho’s w/o tricks who lay down with them!

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