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Is It Okay For A Pastor To Call Women ‘Hoes’?

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By Nigel Boys

Andy Thompson, Pastor of the World Overcomers Christian Church, Durham, North Carolina has landed in hot water recently over something he posted on Twitter. He reportedly told women, that if they did not want their man or husband to look at other women, they should themselves shine more and not let the “hoes” or whores beat them to their man.

The untactful tweet was placed by Thompson on April fools day this year and many believe that it may have been his attempt at a practical joke or “April fool.” However, others are not so forgiving for his tasteless attempt at humor, if it was that, one of them is Taurean Brown, writer, speaker, activist and poet on the blog blacksankofa.

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44 Comments

  1. Jessica

    April 5, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Black men are the only men on earth who routinely degrade their own women before the world. Black men are the only men who have created a blanket of misogynistic attitudes towards their own women, so much so that men of other races and ethnic groups have adopted their foul treatment of black women. Successful black men are the only men who openly reject their own and have formed an “any woman but a black woman” club. http://www.afieldnegro.com/photos.html

    This guy is obviously a poser, because a true minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ would not use that language, and more importantly, he would be more concerned about the feelings of the women he is degrading.

    It time African American women come together to put an end to this type of outrageous debasement by black men. I, for one, have had enough!

    • barbara goodwin

      April 5, 2014 at 1:42 pm

      I use too feel that way. now with all that going on Republicans are doing it to all women. stand up women. a man is only going to do to you what you let them. I just don’t get these kind of men. and I don’t get women letting them call them name. everyone was born with a name. call them there name. what is going on in this world.

    • Arnett V Cooper

      April 5, 2014 at 3:39 pm

      Sister Jessica I understand you are upset at us Black men but I do not in any way agree with everything we Brothers degrade our women In the first place most of us do not know our real History because if we did we would not be following someone else’s history and believe system by writing this we Brothers been influence by Europe & the European the same way you Sisters have been influence by degrading us Brothers as well plus making us pay and be putting us in this Pain & Suffering business so who is the only one or the other who routinely degrades who? In response regarding a Pastor to call women Hoes? Well lets be honest women has been called a Harlot or Whore in the Bible so what is the difference? Ask God as far as us Brothers created this misogynistic attitudes towards our Sisters you really have a lot to study yourself because as I said we are influenced by the Caucasians this their historic attitudes this is their belief system not our

      • Jessica

        April 6, 2014 at 11:15 pm

        In this world, men determine the value of the women in their cultural group. A culture’s self image and profile, at it’s base, is predicated upon the ability of the men in each culture to provide for, protect and promote their women and children. They protect their women, as a profile of the collective male’s ability to police the men within their own culture, and also indicates that they belong to the world order of other cultures who have high self-esteem, cultural pride, and possess manly power to civilized society.

        The most powerful nations that have elevated their women have chosen a beautiful woman to symbolize their land and to represents who they are as people, and to tell the world that they value their land and her, because their nurturing comes from the land, and their future growth as a people comes through her.

        America’s symbol for this land is a woman draped in the American flag; her name is Columbia (the Gem of the Ocean). She can be seen on patriotic posters, on postcards, as statues, on plaques, atop important buildings.

        Men determine how women and children live. The mindset of any group of men will inadvertently affect the self-image, the worldview, and the attitudes of the women they come in contact with. Women and children cannot control collective male behavior. The temperament of every community environment is controlled by men. When men demand to have a stable, beautiful community, that demand is reflected in the demeanor of the women and children who live there. When boys and men are violent, brutal, image critical, and devalue the lives of girls/women of their community, the world can see the effects of their degradation in the eyes, on the faces, and in their behavior. All one has to do is look at the nightly news to see these principles being played out around the world.

        Black American women have been victim of an unrelenting campaign of image slander instituted by dominant society.
        However, over the past 40 years, black males, particularly in show business, have defamed, degraded, debased and de-feminized the image black American women. Black comedians are the biggest perpetrators of this cultural heresy starting with Flip Wilson’s “Geraldine”, and Redd Fox’s “ugly Aunt Esther,” coming forward with a long string of black men dressed in women’s clothes, proclaiming that black women are more man than woman. “The Kings of Comedy” have taught our young men that you can get rich degrading black women. Put all of this together with Hip-hop rappers re-naming black women “b___hes” and “hoes,” and the exclusion of black women from the on-screen images of black male characters, is there any wonder that black women are thoroughly outraged at the treatment we have been subjected to?

    • Devon

      April 5, 2014 at 9:20 pm

      Guess you never been around white men, they dog out white sl@ts too, dont wanna be called a xoe dont act like one. Im a BW and I HAD friends i kicked to the curb becuz i found out they were xoes and told them they was xoes.

    • Devon

      April 5, 2014 at 9:40 pm

      You are stoopid all races of men do this sheit, you must be a xoe cause your azz is whining about this. Im a bw and i dont give a sheit about xoe-ish women if any race, you act like a xoe you get treated like a xoe.

  2. kim

    April 5, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    This is the very type of trash that will talk about women like a dog and then go out and take the churches money and spend it on HOES>>>

    • Israeline

      April 5, 2014 at 4:22 pm

      Amen Sister Kim! Halleujah!!!!!!

    • Virginia

      April 5, 2014 at 7:17 pm

      We know this is true, I really have lost most respect for the ministers today. They say one thing live a completely differant life.

    • Devon

      April 5, 2014 at 9:23 pm

      Are you a xoe, if not why do you care? Im not a xoe and i dont give a sheit if a man or woman calls a xoe a xoe. As bw we need to stop caring about xoes and care about our fellow good sistas.

    • Devon

      April 5, 2014 at 9:25 pm

      If youre not a xoe dont worry about it.

  3. Chryll D. Crews

    April 5, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    The problem with the pastor’s comment is that there is no reprimand of male behavior. Can a woman whore around by herself? And is it the wife’s responsibility to step it up and compete with her husband’s mistress, when he has vowed to honor her and forsake all others? This is the same bull Steve Harvey wrote in his book many, which many naive women purchased and made him richer. So, it leaves women fighting and competing with each other, while, in the meantime, our men pastor the churches, write the books, and get talk shows, as a result of women financing their own oppression. And there’s a reason the men don’t buy the books. LOL! It’s because they know a hustle when they see one.

    • Devon

      April 5, 2014 at 9:29 pm

      Men gonna be men, as a bw i hold myself to a higher standard, dudes dont come at me like that becuz i dont walk around with my titties hanging out and skirts so short my azz and coochie is visible. BW who who are ladies get treated like ladies and bw who dress and act like xoes get treated like xoes.

    • aleximaq

      April 5, 2014 at 10:09 pm

      I love what you just wrote…..and that is my point too….men should learn to keep it in their pants…learn self control….yeah…some women tend to let themselves go in different ways once married but at that point the two should decide if they even should be together rather than make each other miserable……

  4. KORITAS JONES

    April 5, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    HIT DOGS WILL HOLLER ABOUT WHAT THIS GUY SAID. CHRISTIANS NEED TO HER THE RAW TRUTH SOMETIME AND STOP DRESSING UP STUFF SO MUCH

    • Yepyep

      April 5, 2014 at 2:29 pm

      Than you must be hollering than because black men and women need to stop being so fkn stupid and stop calling each other bitches, hoe, and anything negative but the person names.

    • Devon

      April 5, 2014 at 9:31 pm

      PREACH!! Only the xoes will get upset, ladies aint sweating what preacher man said.

  5. Marietta Hunter

    April 5, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    this man was not calling all women hoes. if a woman or women go after a man and his is married, than she is a harlot that what the bible call her. people please read proverb, it will tell you how god describe these women, they are describle as harlot. We all know how these women go to church looking to bed pastors, or any man that fall for them, i am not excusing the man, but these women are nothing but harlot as the bible states.

  6. Wil May

    April 5, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Was no April Fool Joke. The Pastor was speaking his mind and has adopted Hip Hop slang. Another high and mighty snake-in- the- grass Pastor. Stick with God Preacherman.

  7. rogfer

    April 5, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Well technically, by Biblical standards, if you have sex outside of marriage you are hoe. SO ladies you all know the deal and don’t be mad me, I didn’t write the Bible.

  8. Steve Myers

    April 5, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Always remember, it takes a “hoe” to know a “hoe”!

  9. Darlene

    April 5, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    Anyone that follows a false religion, a translated text and a lifestyle of lust and gain, will always be suspect in my eyes. First of all, a man that finds a wife finds a good thing. So no matter whether men are visual or spiritual, it is ridiculous to assume that in order to keep your man you have to degrade yourself. A man is going to test his waters no matter how you dress, treat him. If he has a wondering eye he is going to wonder. Not all men go after other women for just sex. Some want compassion, compatibility, diversity and a companion. Whether the woman is beautiful or not, some men will stray. A mature man that respects his home (or fears his wife lol will never do anything to disrupt the peace within the house of his queen. A person that strays often and is allowed to stray by his wife will continue to unless she has standards, and boundaries There are women that stray also so it is not always the man that goes outside the home. This pastor sounds like the new generation of hiphop preachers that have one foot in the pulpit and the other foot in the strip club. So sick of Black men not going home to their children, disrespecting their women, their mothers and their sisters. When will the Black man retain his sacredness and proclaim his divinity? All you see in the news are black boys going to jail, black boys in the streets saggin, black boys wearing dresses, black boys making black babies. When will it end? IT WILL END WHEN BLACK PEOPLE REGAIN THEIR DIVINE MINDS. RIGHT NOW THE WOMEN ARE NOT being shown how to be ladies. They are taking on roles of male and female in the home, as well as going against nature. Women are working hard to feed their families, and yes some are in the strip clubs trying to pay for their education. But women have got to change their standards of how they are represented in public. Women need to stop looking at these tv shows and music videos where women are dressing like clowns. Take off those big eyelashes, stop getting butt shots, take the blonde, red, blue hair off and become the natural beauty that men used to respect when I was growing up in the 60’s 70’s.

    Men are visual people but looks fade. It takes more than how you dress or how you screw your husband to sustain a marriage. Any man that deduces a woman to what she can look like or be in the bedroom has not reached the intellectual level of manhood. And a man promoting a false religion or man made slave religion is not to be taken seriously anyway. Research will show you that Black people were forced to take on a religion of the slave master. When I say black I mean all people of color were forced to take on the slave master’s religion. He gave you a bible and took your land, took your gods and made them his. People on the islands, South Central and North America and in Europe have all been duped. People need to realize that all of the sinners go to church. Study the history of religion, the so called sacred books, and then study where all religion comes from.
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    • Imhotep

      April 6, 2014 at 7:18 pm

      You are right on point! Another black passa using the slavemaster’s religion to be able to get paid! ! And he said ” we are just trying to help women!” Did y’all women catch that? He and guys like Steve Harvey are always playing the victim violin for y’all! Why do some of y’all continue to fall for the same okey doke!! And y’all pay to hear it!! Keep spitting the truth! ! Maat…

  10. Gregory A. King King

    April 5, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    He should not have said it that way but a lot of men or not getting what they wont at home which result in a man getting it else where.

  11. Corbin

    April 5, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    I don’t think anyone can outshine a ho. Anyway, I don’t think it even matters because if a man wants something different then he is going to get it. I think men get tired of the same thing everyday. The same feel, the same position, the same dryness.

    oops.

    Hoes will do whatever the wife will not. All he has to do is shell out a few bucks.

    I’m going to tell you like Mary Jane told her lovers wife. “Get on your knees”, and I’m not talking about prayer.

  12. Devon

    April 5, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    Females need to stop whining a man treats a woman the way she lets him treat her, if you act like a xoe expect to get treated like a hoe. And bw who are ladies and carry ourselves like ladies shouldnt take up for xoes we should shun them.

  13. aleximaq

    April 5, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    First of all, pastor, reverend, bishop, or whatever this guy chooses to call himself….he is an azzhole, before he is anything else….by the shear way he even words this tweet….what is he trying to say? I, as a real woman, can not possibly see how a “h0e” could out shine me in any other than being a h0e….so what is he talking about…if your husband can not tell the difference between you, the person he married and some random h0e, then really is it you who needs to step their game up? I’m thinking it would be your man….

    • Callie

      April 6, 2014 at 7:25 am

      Also, if a man is dealing with a spirit of lust, he will look at anything that walks. Halle Berry had a sociopathic husband with a spirit of lust and he screwed her bridesmaid
      No excuse for a filthy spirited man. If he has other interest and wreck less eyeballs, then he needs to be single.

  14. J. D. Hill

    April 5, 2014 at 11:32 pm

    To tell wives to outshine the whores in order to keep their husbands is ungodly advice. This pastor is not “speaking as of the oracles of God”.

    Proverbs 31:25 says that a virtuous woman [or wife] is clothed in strength and honor.

    I Timothy 2:9 teaches Christian women to be modest, decent, and respectable in their appearance – not with show-girl hair styles, ostentatious jewelry, and expensive clothing. The way a godly woman dresses must reflect the One to whom she belongs first: to God! Also, I Peter 3:3 says that a godly woman’s beauty must come from within – not from outward adornment.

    Many of us have noticed that many of the so-called “First Ladies” are looking just the opposite of what the Bible teaches. The reason? Their pastor husbands are misleading them and their parishioners. It’s “the blind leading the blind”!

    • Chryll D. Crews

      April 7, 2014 at 3:43 am

      Good word!

      • Chryll D. Crews

        April 7, 2014 at 3:55 am

        Now what Scripture reference could he possibly use to support wives out shining their husband’s mistresses? The group he was addressing may already be too far gone, because I can’t think of one woman I personally know that wouldn’t have checked him right on the spot! I just bust out laughing every time I think about it. That conference would have been so over. And look how it is assumed that the whore is not sitting there in the room among the so call wives. LOL! Can men stop trying to teach women to blame themselves for their behavior or decisions. Thank God we only have to give an account of our own sins.

  15. Marilyn

    April 5, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    I would only say this, If the shoe fits, then wear it!!!I
    Otherwise this does not apply to you

  16. candidman

    April 6, 2014 at 12:20 am

    Although he did apologize, I have mix feelings about the whole thing. First, I’ll talk about the message, minus the choice of words. The pastor was spot on, but he didn’t take it back far enough. Since the mid-80’s when these street woman started flooding the streets in most of the poorer black communities, bw have come down hard on bm for running after these types. But meanwhile did nothing to stop bm from wanting to hit the streets. They continued to go to clubs and hate on bm, or vacated the clubs that had too many blacks and went to mixed clubs. Then when that club got too black, the cycle would start over again. At the same time, outside the club they were turning their noses up at black men who weren’t driving a Volvo or better. Just were did you expect these bm to go for five dollars. It don’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. And don’t say church. If that was the answer, then 95% of us would be married by now. The church still have a lot of cleaning up to do. As I said, the pastor didn’t go back far enough with this message. If bw want to have bm IN GENERAL, then she have to outshine the street girl before she gets him first. Not almost have the same hate the prostitute has for him, or put him through more changes than she would. The pastor uses this example to apply to married people, but one of the reasons we don’t have as many married people as we should is because we didn’t take care of the first problem. That’s been pushed under the rug years ago, and one of the reasons we will still have kaos. We need to start addressing what we need to in the right order, not after it’s already on fire.

    Now about the word hoe. I heard many black pastors use the words turkey, punk. dog, sissy, etc… to describe men doing the wrong things, and nobody would say a word, eventhough these names are meant for bm, especially the first three. If you had an issue with it, you would hear, “If the word don’t apply to you, you shouldn’t be offended”. Shouldn’t this same rule apply when a black pastor uses the street word for whore, which is hoe.

    They have this saying: “If you throw a rock in the middle of a bunch of dogs, the one who hollers is the one you hit”. Just some food for thought. Perhaps none of these words should be used by a pastor. But we can’t continue to be one-sided, and let the church be used to bash bm, and only tap bw on the rest. That’s where the church seems to be now, and I believe that’s the main reason so many bm stopped going.

  17. DARRELL

    April 6, 2014 at 7:01 am

    HEY REV!! SO R U SAYING YOUR MOMMA’S HOE TOO?? IJS!!!

  18. Kmad

    April 6, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    And please, to those who say keeping right at home your man won’t be tempted….some men are more whorish and no matter how you “shine” at home some men will still stray and commit adultery. I’ve seen it happen and thought she has it together why would he cheat, its cause he wanted to! Amy woman who agrees with his language you should check yourself because it is totally unacceptable. Brothers and sisters need to get their acts together….hallelujah.

  19. ARNEADER

    April 6, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    I aint mad at the pastor…but that is why they are called hoes because they are low down.

  20. Dave

    April 7, 2014 at 8:00 am

    No big deal in the statement of the pastor. He didn’t call all women hoes- he called only those who qualify themselves for it. So if you are not,it doesn’t apply to you

  21. godfather05

    April 7, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    The truth hurts. You can be a hoe regardless of race or color.

  22. Anne

    April 13, 2014 at 3:07 am

    The fact that the pastor used the word “hoes” to describe women who mess with married men and also gave advice to cheated-on wives but not the cheating husbands says a lot about him. Those who have no problem with the word “hoes,” especially the women who say it doesn’t refer to them, are missing the point. That point is that he is a misogynist who has no respect for women, period. Why else would he hold women accountable for their behavior but not the men? He is subscribing to some harmful, outdated views about women, and for that reason I wouldn’t be able to accept him as a spiritual advisor. It’s bad enough that there are rappers and others who call women bitches and hoes, and that too many of us ignore it. But this is a man who has assumed a mantle of moral authority, and he should be held to a higher standard as a result. Name-calling always gets in the way of whatever point someone’s trying to make, and he could have made the point that the married men AND those women who knowingly mess with married men are equally to blame without getting down into the gutter. Even glamorous women get cheated on, like Halle Berry. So, any advice has to address the dishonesty and selfishness that are a part of cheating, especially on the part of the married partner.

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